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athena
07-31-2006, 10:44 PM
so... couple things of note...

1) Inkwolf has decided to join our merry band of Keyframe Editors. I'll be taking some time to setup her access--hopefully tomorrow morning.

2) I quit my job today and will be shifting to freelance full-time as of August 12th. If you want the full gory details of why exactly quitting my job equals continued sanity, feel free to ask... however the important thing to note here is that I am hoping to finally be able to find a better balance for all the things that I'm passionate about in my life... including this fair place.


We'll see how things shake out, but at the moment I'm very hopeful... which is kinda odd given the fact that I'm officially unemployed. :D

athena
08-01-2006, 05:34 AM
btw Editors... if you aren't checking the Lounge for messages because it's been so been so quiet of late, you might want to start again.

lupercal
08-01-2006, 06:18 PM
so... couple things of note...

1) Inkwolf has decided to join our merry band of Keyframe Editors. I'll be taking some time to setup her access--hopefully tomorrow morning.




Welcome aboard Inkwolf - not that you weren't aboard anyway, in reality. I actually tried to talk you into it myself a few months ago byt my emails bounced. A very good addition, IMO. My God, we have an American on staff!

athena
08-02-2006, 10:56 AM
hehe. shocking isn't it. :D
Although really, we have an exceptionally international editorial staff... doubt many sites could claim they had editors from three different continents.

Where shalt we branch off to from here? Mainland Europe? Asia? Get that really high quality animation they produce in Antarctica... ;)

starlac
08-02-2006, 12:11 PM
Welcome to the team Inkwolf... :D

Guess this means you'll be able to add Princess Nine, I'll take it of my list if that's okay. I've been trying to find some decent pictures for it since you requested but so far they have elluded me. Even Youtube doesn't seem to have any videos I could've really used.

I hate it when that happens... when I can't find a decent image, but then that's the joys of having to search the web.

Course in reality you're also in a better position to profile it than me, having actually seen it.

Inkwolf
08-02-2006, 01:53 PM
Thanks for the welcome, guys! :)

Thanks to car trouble and cat trouble, I haven't had a chance to do anything about being an editor yet, but I look forward to it. And I'm looking forward to working with you all! Keyframe is one of the sites I really enjoy, and will do what I can to help carry on its tradition of excellence.

What, I'm the only American here? Eep! :D Um, hey, I voted for the other guy...BOTH times, darn it.

Sure, no problem, I can make a screenshot of Princess Nine, and whatever else I can get my hands on in DVD. The nice thing about working for a library is I can get my hands on just about any DVD owned by a library in the state of Wisconsin. And the even nicer thing about being the video buyer for my library is that, if no library owns it, I can often sneak it into my own library's budget, if not my personal own. :D

I expect I will be adding several anime series, since all the full-length cartoons I know of are pretty well represented, and only a few of the animes I've watched are!

Anyway, this ought to be fun....it's great to be on the team!

athena
08-02-2006, 03:59 PM
Sure, no problem, I can make a screenshot of Princess Nine, and whatever else I can get my hands on in DVD. The nice thing about working for a library is I can get my hands on just about any DVD owned by a library in the state of Wisconsin.
:notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy

athena
08-02-2006, 04:00 PM
btw, to be fair... Toonboy is also American even if he's currently not very active as an editor. :)

lupercal
08-02-2006, 11:23 PM
You just said "add anime series" and "fun" in the same sentence. Yeah, it's sorta fun till you get to the 12th DVD you have to re-size and link to, or the 11th executive producer, or the 37th Japanese cast member who played someone called 'Mabuchi', who it turns out was a character who flicked peas off his fork at someone in episode 17.

There's a certain satisfaction/exhaustion at the end, but they can take ages.

Loop - who has done more than a few.

Inkwolf
08-03-2006, 01:37 PM
Eep! You're scaring me! :D

Yeah, I read the how-to last night, and it does seem like there's a lot of stuff to prepare before you get it posted.

MonkeyFunk
08-03-2006, 01:54 PM
So we've finally found our anime editor?
Now we just need another 27 to cover the whole lot. I mean, we'll need a mecha editor, a magical girl editor, a romantic comedy editor, a hentai editor...

athena
08-03-2006, 05:00 PM
So we've finally found our anime editor?
Now we just need another 27 to cover the whole lot. I mean, we'll need a mecha editor, a magical girl editor, a romantic comedy editor, a hentai editor...
And let me just veto the idea of a hentai editor right out of the gate... can you imagine the kind of reviews we'd get? :yuck:


And boys, stop scaring the shiny new editor before she has a chance to even get going. You've all added lots of profiles and you're still standing... for the most part... :knockout:

Inkwolf, it's not nearly as scary as the big instruction thread makes it--which I think I even say at the top of the first message. In truth, you only need to fill in the basic info on the first page, add the images, select the studio and the languages... that's be bare minimum for the profile not to look strange when it's viewed/reviewed and that part takes a few minutes at most... after which point you're just fleshing it out and you can do that fleshing out over the course of multiple sittings if you get tired after the first round of voice actors or whatever.

And you'll notice if you skim the Admin Log that these guys will go back and tweak profiles... add better images, add more Of Interest, add more merchandise... long after the initial profile goes up.

So yea, don't feel like you need to know *everything* there is about a piece of animation before you go to do the profile.

Inkwolf
08-03-2006, 07:56 PM
I'll try not to get too freaked out. :D

About cast lists, do you guys pretty much transcribe your own, or get the info online?

And if a DVD is out of print, should I link to an Amazon listing anyway?

I've started looking at series to profile, and will probably get started with Galaxy Angel, Princess Nine, and Pet Shop of Horrors....

Oh, and in general I prefer the comedy animes, if we divide them up. :D

lupercal
08-03-2006, 08:16 PM
Don't be freaked out. Most profiles aren't that hard, though sometimes finding a screencap can be. It's just that anime is (IMHO) harder than nearly anything else because they tend to have enormous voice casts in both Japanese and English, all of whom are associated with actual character names, not just "man in pone booth".

Also if it's an interesting series which, say, I have on tape, and has a voice cast list, without associating them with particular characters, and it's not mention elsewhere on the web, I'll list the actors in of interest' (I did that with 'King Arthur and the Square Knights' for example. Actually, no - I worked out who one character was because his voice was unmistakable, worked out another one, and I think me tioned th other in 'of interest'. Gah, this is making it sound hard. This doesn't happen that often.)

Also, Athena might have told you this, but don't bother listing animators, unless it's a relatively small project like a short, with just a few people working on it. I shudder to think how many animators there've been on The Simpsons by now. I guess my rule of thumb there is, list it if the person's contribution was in some way distinctive or significant, which it has to be if, for example he/she was the only animator, or one of a small group.


The other thing that drives me a bit nuts about some anime is - well, do you know how how many DVDs of Neon Genesis Evangelion exist? For sanity's sake I've made it a personal rule of thumb that unless it's either a relatively new series or still being released in volumes, I'll just link to the complete boxed set. Who's going to buy 7 volumes of something at $25 each when they can buy the whole thing for $50? Maybe I'd include the first volume for people who want to sample it..

Cast lists - IMO, IMDB is a good first place to turn, because they also have other useful info like release dates and so forth. Transcribing from a tape is just too much of a pain (though I just did it with 'Pitt and Kantrop' because we were getting loads of hits for it, and the information wasn't anywhere else on the web).

However you can't trust imdb 100%. Generally they get it right, but sometimes they don't. They are far from perfect. Sometimes you just know they have it wrong, of they might only list 2 characters when there are heaps, so you go looking elsewhere. For a lot of more specialised stuff, if I know a good fan site I'll go there first, because fans tend to be fanatical about getting it right. Toonhound is also a more reliable source of info for British productions than imdb is, IMO. And sometimes you just can't find what you're after no matter how hard you look.

I'll leave it to Athena to answer the 'out of print' question, but personally if it's out of print (permanently), I'll link to ebay instead and note that it's OOP. However if it's merely out of stock, I'd link to the Amazon listing. If it's 'to be released', I don't link to it, but make a note in the 'of interest', and hope I remember it later

(slight correction: I'll link to an unreleased Amazon listing if it has a definite release date beside it. It will show up on the profile page as 'pre-order'. But some listings will just say some rubbish like the company is thinking about releasing it and would you like to be advised. That's what I was referring to.)

One thing I like doing is 'value adding', mainly in the case of obscure items or things which imdb doesn't list. I'll find out anything interesting and stick it in 'of interest'. People start thinking of us as a bit of a source...

Loop.

starlac
08-03-2006, 11:04 PM
And let me just veto the idea of a hentai editor right out of the gate... can you imagine the kind of reviews we'd get? :yuck:

Hentai :bazooka: And don't come back! Never mind the reviews, what kind of visitors would we end up with? :ppbb:

About cast lists, do you guys pretty much transcribe your own, or get the info online?

For most of my cast lists I do have a habit of looking them up (copying and pasting) on imdb. I have spotted entries which have little details wrong, especially for the more obscure films; the question I ask myself is does it feel right.

e.g. The imdb entry for the road Runner/coyote short "Gee Whiz-z-z" states Mel Blanc as the voice of the Road Runner, when in reality Paul Julian has always been the voice.

If something seems wrong then it probably is.

Nevertheless imdb has a compentent track record, which is more than I can say for bcdb.

Oh, and in general I prefer the comedy animes, if we divide them up.

So far as dividing anime goes, I'm afraid I usually add it as and where I can find images for it, since most of what I own is already on this site…

At present I’m putting information up on…

Dai Guard – Practically finished, but since I have this on DVD I going give it one more watch so I can work out the Primary characters.

I am currently writing profiles (or at least have images) for the following anime (as well as other things), with various degrees of completion…

Case Closed (aka Detective Conan) – Dominion Tank Police – Dragon Half – Hello Kitty – Pretty Cure – Ranma ½ - Street Fighter: the Movie – Tokyo Mew Mew

Inkwolf
08-04-2006, 12:43 AM
Did my first...mainly chose this because I had it on hand, having just bought the complete set. (The library system only had the two first, and I've wanted to see the rest.)
Galaxy Angel (http://www.keyframeonline.com/Animation/Galaxy_Angel/834/)

Besides the ones I've already mentioned, I expect I'll be adding Paranoia Agent, Orphen, Trigun, R.O.D. the TV, Wolf's Rain, Lost Universe and Ruin Explorers eventually, if nobody beats me to any of them.

By the way, are we expected to have watched the whole series through before listing anime? I know sometimes they sneak in surprisingly, um, 'mature' stuff into what seemed like a perfectly innocent series before, and Athena once said she didn't list anime without checking them out first. On the other hand, Inu-Yasha bores me sick, but should be listed due to its popularity. And DNAngel is another one that seems highly popular with the teens at the moment, but which I don't really have much interest in watching personally.

No hentai? Well, that makes it doubtful whether I should profile Puni Puni Poemy...not that I was all that tempted to do it anyway. :D (It's Excel Saga's much more tasteless spin-off...and yes, it is possible to be much more tasteless even than Excel Saga!)

Anyway, it's 3 in the morning now..I'm going to bed.

lupercal
08-04-2006, 01:08 AM
Did my first...mainly chose this because I had it on hand, having just bought the complete set.

Congratulations! Looks fine to me. The highlight image looks rather dark, but that could just be my monitor, as a lot of stuff seems dark on it, which don't apparently seem dark to other people. The main thing is you got through the process without problems.


Besides the ones I've already mentioned, I expect I'll be adding Paranoia Agent, Orphen, Trigun, R.O.D. the TV, Wolf's Rain, Lost Universe and Ruin Explorers eventually, if nobody beats me to any of them.

We already have 'Wolf's Rain' (though another review than mine would be good), and I thought I added R.O.D. the TV (checks).... no you're right; I added the OAV.


By the way, are we expected to have watched the whole series through before listing anime?

Well if we are, I'm in trouble for adding 'Fruits Basket' (though I did watch the first disc of it which I got from an online rental place during my trial fortnight).


I know sometimes they sneak in surprisingly, um, 'mature' stuff into what seemed like a perfectly innocent series before

I think the best thing is to find out what it's rated, and why, and read as many synposes as you can. The trouble is, a hell of a lot of stuff released in the USA is unrated, whereas in Australia everything has a rating, and then a list of reasons why it has that rating (e.g. drug use, mild level coarse language, horror themes, high level sex scenes, bla bla bla. My favourite was 'minors smoking' in 'Lassie'). One thing you could do if you're stuck is find an Australian store like ezydvd.com.au and just check the cover of the Australian version, which will often go into tedious detail about such things. Even though the Australian rating system isn't the same as the US, you can still get an idea. FWIW the Australian system goes

G
PG
M (recommended for 15+, but not enforced)
MA (restricted to 15+, unless with adult)
R (restricted to 18 and over)

PG (which I think is about the same as PG-13 in the US), used to be called NRC just for a little trivia (my mother worked in a cinema when I was a kid. I got to see 'Yellow Submarinne ever day when it came out, and I was 4 or 5. That might be what's wrong with me.)

Loop

MonkeyFunk
08-04-2006, 03:53 AM
Hentai :bazooka: And don't come back! Never mind the reviews, what kind of visitors would we end up with? :ppbb:


That's just it - our hits would skyrocket! We'd be the number 1 site for people googling "Don Hertzfeldt naked".

Inkwolf
08-04-2006, 09:43 AM
What about adding/editing info on other editors' cartoon profiles? Is that all right, or is it etiquette to ask first?

(Oh, and I wouldn't exactly call adding my first profile 'without problems.' My evil computer genius kitten found a way to sit on my keyboard so that the working window and my main reference window both closed, and I had to go back in and add in the voice cast and crew one at a time as edits!)

athena
08-04-2006, 09:53 AM
Galaxy Angel (http://www.keyframeonline.com/Animation/Galaxy_Angel/834/)
Woop. Looks good. :aok:
Watch the maximum pixel width or height on the images you upload. I think the DVD image is a bit large... not too much of a problem on the profile page, but if it were with others that size on the 'buy' page it would break the formatting.

It should be 90px height and around 60-something wide.

I know it's a lot of remember when you're starting out so just keep an eye on the help text around the file upload boxes and you'll be fine. :D


(ps. currently at work but I promise to get to the rest of your queries later...)

Inkwolf
08-04-2006, 11:18 AM
Fixed! Thanks. :)

athena
08-04-2006, 11:57 AM
So we've finally found our anime editor?

That reminds me...


Inkwolf, I forgot to ask... I gave you the Editor title of "Animation Editor"... would you prefer "Anime Editor"? It's more of an aesthetic choice than anything else since any of the editors can pretty much add anything they want.

athena
08-04-2006, 12:03 PM
About cast lists, do you guys pretty much transcribe your own, or get the info online?

As these guys have already noted... IMDb is usually good, but personally if I'm watching something--particularly something a little off the mainstream--I'll usually transcribe the list myself just so I know it's correct.


And if a DVD is out of print, should I link to an Amazon listing anyway?

If something is out of print but there's still a lot of third-party zShop sellers, I'd rather go Amazon over eBay... for me it's a purely financial decision because our affiliate arrangement with Amazon (both US and UK) is better than the one we have with eBay... that said, our priority at the end of the day is still that people be able to find it so if Amazon isn't looking like a stable source, go with eBay.

athena
08-04-2006, 12:05 PM
(slight correction: I'll link to an unreleased Amazon listing if it has a definite release date beside it. It will show up on the profile page as 'pre-order'. But some listings will just say some rubbish like the company is thinking about releasing it and would you like to be advised. That's what I was referring to.)

Oh yea, I think Amazon is aiming to have DVD listing for just about anything these days just on the off chance someone will feed them their email address to be alerted (and in the meantime, spammed) if it ever does get released...

athena
08-04-2006, 12:16 PM
By the way, are we expected to have watched the whole series through before listing anime? I know sometimes they sneak in surprisingly, um, 'mature' stuff into what seemed like a perfectly innocent series before, and Athena once said she didn't list anime without checking them out first.
Put it this way... once upon a time I listed 'Allegro non troppo' based on a description I read online saying it was like an Italian version of Fantasia... I hadn't seen it and didn't have a pic for it beyond the box cover.

Anyways, someone went out and rented it based on my vague description... evidently they got quite an eyeful... I still haven't seen it, so I don't know exactly what's in it but from what I understand now it's not nearly as family-friendly as the Disney's Fantasia... and I got quite an earful in the review.

Essentially this is what I'm trying to prevent... usually I don't watch more than a few episodes of a series before profiling it and usually I can get a good sense at that point of the level of violence / gore... level of sexuality... level of anything that your average parent is going to raise an eyebrow over.

Basically we want to prevent parents from renting Fritz the Cat (http://keyframeonline.com/Animation/Fritz_the_Cat/426/) for their 4 year old because she thought the cat on the box was so cute... :ppbb:


oh btw, you guys don't need to write Viewer Warnings for things that are PG... I usually save it for the exceptional... "graphic violence" (which I define as violence with blood and/or severed bodyparts) or "nudity" or "sex" or "continuous swearing"... most parents will take their kids to a PG film without blinking an eye at the occassional swear word or the fact they're wielding swords or shooting guns...

However, I'm noting this only for database consistency and I leave the final decision to your discretion.

starlac
08-06-2006, 12:31 AM
Seems like this thread is turning into the new Editor's Lounge. :lol:

Great profiles Inkwolf...:D

I've had (and I think we've all had) problems while adding profiles; the most unpredictable one that happened to me was a power cut.

What about adding/editing info on other editors' cartoon profiles? Is that all right, or is it etiquette to ask first?

I don't see any problems with adding additional info on top of what is already there. As for editing, well, it's always polite to ask.

Of course if the profile synopsis has something like from Yahoo Upcoming Movies written on it then the usual consensus (insofar as I can see) seems to be that it's okay to replace it (I've been meaning to replace the one for "Over the Hedge" because it manages to get the details wrong).

I did ask lupercal if it was okay to replace some of his images for some of the theatrical shorts he's added. He said it was fine as he was dependent on web images and I can grab them of my DVDs, videos, etc. Although if I remember rightly I haven't yet done so for any yet.

When I was apparently replacing pretty much every image for every profile I’ve put up in my history as an editor a few weeks ago, it was because I'd found the "Save for Web" option on Photoshop (I'd always saved using Ctrl+S before) and figured that an image under 10kb was better than the same image that was nearer 20+Kb.

I'd like to ask if I can replace the images for Animaniacs, in accordance with having the siblings in their usual attire (rather than the period costumes they’re in on that image).

I would also like to write more elaborate profiles for the three Astro Boy series, as they’re all effectively have just one sentence each.

lupercal
08-06-2006, 02:32 AM
I did ask lupercal if it was okay to replace some of his images for some of the theatrical shorts he's added. He said it was fine as he was dependent on web images and I can grab them of my DVDs, videos, etc. Although if I remember rightly I haven't yet done so for any yet.

[...]

I'd like to ask if I can replace the images for Animaniacs, in accordance with having the siblings in their usual attire (rather than the period costumes they’re in on that image).



I think to an extent it's not just a matter of whether it came from a DVD or off the web. There's also the matter of is it a vetter image, per se. I don't remember which ones you asked about, but I'm sure I agreed on the basis that I didn't think the existing images were all that great. Don't forget that most of the images on the web came from screengrabs anyway, so just because it came from the web doesn't nescessareily make it inferior.

I would approach each case individually. If I really thought the existing image was very good, I might like to see the suggested alternative. Actually I remember I was about to put up 'Steamboy' and had some images I thought were great, and Starlac actually profiled it within hours of my getting around to it, and I think I tossed them away, but I actually think they were better images. It didn't seem worth worrying about.

So, I guess, I don't have an objection to replacing the Animaniacs image, because I don't think it's outstanding, though it's alright. But if I did think the existing image was very good, I might want to see the alternative. So, I guess, always ask is my answer.

As far as adding adding extra info or correcting mistakes, no need to ask about that, though a note in the comments log would be polite.

Loop

athena
08-06-2006, 03:11 PM
Seems like this thread is turning into the new Editor's Lounge. :lol:
Hey, whatever works... :D
I think it's mainly because we can't see if there are any new posts in the Lounge in the thread list on the main page. I'm still trying to arrange a time with the guy who did the programming last summer so I can figure out how to fix stuff like that.


I'd like to ask if I can replace the images for Animaniacs, in accordance with having the siblings in their usual attire (rather than the period costumes they’re in on that image).
I can't remember who added that... I thought it was you, but it might have been Lupercal or Toonboy... honestly you collectively plow through so many profiles it's hard to keep up.

You guys realize you've added almost 400 profiles since last September? Basically doubled the number profiles on the site... crrraaaaazzzzy, I tell you.


I would also like to write more elaborate profiles for the three Astro Boy series, as they’re all effectively have just one sentence each.
I'm pretty sure those were originally Toonboy's, but I'm not sure... generally I have no objection when we're providing more information in the synopsis.


One question though... we split the Astroboys into 3 profiles, but as is noted, Scooby-Doo is made up of about seven different series from the 60s to 2002... not that I'm voting for seven profiles of Scooby-Doo, but if we're going to go one way or the other we should have some kind of protocol for it.

Inkwolf
08-06-2006, 11:48 PM
Hmm, when I tried to sign in today it said "Error: Account does not have Admin Level Access."

MonkeyFunk
08-07-2006, 03:16 AM
One question though... we split the Astroboys into 3 profiles, but as is noted, Scooby-Doo is made up of about seven different series from the 60s to 2002... not that I'm voting for seven profiles of Scooby-Doo, but if we're going to go one way or the other we should have some kind of protocol for it.

Actually I think seven Scoobies might be the way to go. At other forums I've met a lot of old-timey HB fans who get into a lot of discussions about which series was the best. Hmm, maybe we need an old-timey HB editor...

Hmm, when I tried to sign in today it said "Error: Account does not have Admin Level Access."

I had the same trouble originally; have you tried putting your name in all lower case?

Inkwolf
08-07-2006, 06:23 AM
Um, okay, that worked. Thanks! :D

starlac
08-07-2006, 10:04 AM
Animaniacs was here when I was still a newbie, so it couldn’t have been me that added it. Anyway I've replaced the images with one of the warner's escaping from the tower, which is pretty much the first thing you see in any episode (and hey it's the basic setup for the whole show). The 'pay-or-play contracts' bit lends itself well to the 190x75 highlight format; with a selection of characters all in a line.

BTW: I've saved the original profile images if you want them back instead.

I don't remember which ones you asked about,

I think it may have been Wackiki Wabbit, because of the fact that one of the two human characters gets their head cut off in the highlight image.

I was also looking at Corny Concerto, although all I was going to do for the that one is replace the image with the same image, because the one that's there is slightly washed out.

I don’t have any problems using web images, quite a few of the profiles I’ve added have had their images taken from this or that website; I certainly wouldn’t call them inferior.

Yet sometimes it can boil down to a matter of how much choice you have, it’s very annoying when all you can find is the one image and you know that there are better ones in the cartoon that could have been used. Image galleries at least offer a bit more choice, but for certain profiles you’re left with little, if anything at all to go on.

Of course the quality of an image can be a subjective thing.

One question though... we split the Astroboys into 3 profiles, but as is noted, Scooby-Doo is made up of about seven different series from the 60s to 2002... not that I'm voting for seven profiles of Scooby-Doo, but if we're going to go one way or the other we should have some kind of protocol for it.

To me the three Astro's have very definite differences from each other, mostly reflective of the periods and circumstances in which they were made. One difference is the production companies involved, Mishu Productions did the first back in the sixties. Tezuka made the later two, but since the second and third versions are twenty years apart, it's quite possible that the later wasn't being made by the exact same people (and certainly not with Tezuka).

So looking at most of the Scooby-Doo series in this way. Well they do have much of the same production crew and not a great deal of real concrete change over the years. The biggest departure that Hanna-Barbera did to the show was in the “A Pup Named Scooby-Doo” series in the eighties (though I suppose some would argue that the biggest change was the introduction of Scrappy-Doo).

Warner's in-house animation studio took over the production of those Scooby-Doo TV movies of the late nineties as well as the recent 2002 "What's New, Scooby-Doo?" series. I was writing up a synopsis on "What's New" because of this.

At the present, I kind of tempted to follow your advice on The Land Before Time sequels, if someone requests them then I see no reason not to put them up, till then we have a list of them in the original show which spawned them.

lupercal
08-07-2006, 08:13 PM
Animaniacs was here when I was still a newbie, so it couldn’t have been me that added it.

It was me (see below)

Loop

lupercal
08-08-2006, 12:35 AM
Sorry, I'm nothing if not honest. I think that new Animaniacs highlight image is weak. Yes, more of the characters are in it, but the clarity is bad , and you can't tell who they are.

OTOH when I say nice things, you know I I mean them.

Loop

lupercal
08-08-2006, 01:15 AM
BTW no problems replacing 'Corny Concerto' image if it's just a clearer version of the same or similar shot.

starlac
08-08-2006, 02:21 AM
Sorry, I'm nothing if not honest. I think that new Animaniacs highlight image is weak. Yes, more of the characters are in it, but the clarity is bad , and you can't tell who they are.

Fair enough. Always good to hear constructive criticism, helps you improve your abilities.

I went back and redid the image; brightening it up and cutting of the edges to get closer to the characters. Now does it look now (see attachment below)? Or should I completely forsake that image and look elsewhere for a possible highlight.

Also attached is a replacement image for Corny Concerto. It's the same frame, or at least as close as makes no odds.

I haven't uploaded either yet.

lupercal
08-08-2006, 02:31 AM
Corny Concerto looks fine. Animaniacs definiely looks better. What happens if you apply a sharpen filter?

Loop

starlac
08-08-2006, 03:40 AM
I applied a sharpener to the image, here's a before and after for comparision?

lupercal
08-08-2006, 04:53 AM
I think it's a little clearer, whih is important when you're working with figures that small, but it's not a huge difference. Ans that's just IMO.

Of course you also have to watch you don't start getting weird artefacts if you sharpen too much, but that doesn't seem to be a problem there.

Loop

starlac
08-08-2006, 07:27 AM
That's about as sharp as I can make it with any noticable positive effect; any more and the image starts to fall apart, even after resizing. I've checked both on a completely black screen (i.e. window’s slideshow) and the later is a faction better, though not by much.

I've also brightened and sharpened up the main profile image, because I felt that it was looking too dark in comparison.

Anyway replaced them and Corny Concerto's…