Oscar winners

[MonkeyFunk]

Best animated feature: Wallace and Gromit
Best short: The Moon and the Son

so there we go

[Juuchan17]

Wallace and Gromit wins . . . .

I think that was quite an obvious victory for the British stop-motion animated film. I guess it showed that good old-fashioned animation still has what it takes to rake in the cash, ne? *still wants to see it*

[starlac]

Good old Wallace and Gromit, here's hoping that this will allow more traditional mediums to have an easier time of getting through the movie machine.

EDIT: I've yet to see the movie myself, oh and I've added this to the news.

[GrafSpee]

I liked Wallace & Gromit but I was much more impressed with the work done on Corpse Bride. It's easy to see why the Wallace & Gromit movie won: it was a fun film. And many people were turned off by the theme of Corpse Bride so they wouldn't go see the film (...quite a few people I work with fell into this category...). Howl's Moving Castle didn't stay in the area long enough for me to see that so I can't compare it to the others (at least until I get my copy of the DVD, which comes out tomorrow).

[MonkeyFunk]

Anime fans are objecting:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=22157

Yes it truly indeed got cheated. Well we can always fall back on Spirted Away. But claymation and british people beat high end technical graphics and excellent dialouge. Did you see the cornballs that acepted the thing? They had to br the corniest guys to ever butt-rape an excellently well executed movie. Damm you Oscars. Damm you Pat Robertson.

[starlac]

The fact that Howl's Moving Castle is based on a "British" novel seems to have passed them by.

[lupercal]

Good old Wallace and Gromit, here's hoping that this will allow more traditional mediums to have an easier time of getting through the movie machine.



Considering Aardman are married to Dreamworks now, and their next two films are both CGI, it looks like this was the last hoorah for Aardman claymation, rather than the start of a new age.

The trouble is - and I might be wrong, but I suspect not - it's not just about how much a film makes at the box office, it's about how much it costs and how long it takes to make in the first place, and 2D and Claymation must lose out to CG.

For example, 'Tarzan' (1999) made half as much as ''Finding Nemo' (2003), despite being Disney's biggest hit of that period, and a better film IMO anyway. And it also cost 50 per cent more to make. So who's going to risk $150M on a film that ends up making $20M profit when they can risk $94M (less, taking inflation into account) on a film that makes $340M in the YS alone.

I'm afraid in another 20 years people are going to look back on 2D and claymation features nd the likes or Roger Rabbit, like we look back on the builders of The Pyramids.

Loop

[Toonboy]

I'll decide for myself when I pick up all three movies and watch them. But I've been an avid despiser of the Oscars for quite a while now. I wasn't expecting anything exciting this time.

It seems like my favorite source, TV Guide's movie section, is the only one going against the grain here. They gave Howl and Corpse Bride both four stars while giving Wallace and Grommit only a modest 2 and a half. Ah well. There's always Rotten Tomatoes.

[lupercal]

Anime fans are objecting:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=22157


This really makes so much sense. What does Pat Robertson have to do with it? Are Wallace and Gromit actually militant Zionists, and the Were-Rabbit really Ariel Sharon or Hugo Chavez or something?

Plus, considering the 5 or 6 films that were up for most of the live action oscars this year, the Academy could hardly be accused of pandering to popular sentiment (this year anyway)

I'm afraid this just exposes the fact that people who watch nothing but anime tend to be off in their own little world, where the laws of physics and commonsense fail to operate.

Loop

[P.C. Unfunny]

Anime fans are objecting:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=22157


I bet you most of them didn't even see Wallace and Gromit. Hell,I think some of them didn't even see EITHER film.


It seems like my favorite source, TV Guide's movie section, is the only one going against the grain here. They gave Howl and Corpse Bride both four stars while giving Wallace and Grommit only a modest 2 and a half. Ah well. There's always Rotten Tomatoes.


The TV guide critics are hacks,stick with Rotten Tomatoes.How on earth do you give "The Blues Brothers" a bad grade ????

[athena]

Anime fans are objecting:
seriously? SERIOUSLY?! aughh... :irked:
I like Miyazaki's films--I think I own a half dozen of them by now... but I still say that Howl's Moving Castle wasn't up to his past standard. Spirited Away deserved an Oscar even if it isn't among my favourites, but in my opinion Howl's Moving Castle definitely didn't... and I would say that regardless of who got the Oscar. It simply wasn't that great a film.

Frankly out of the Oscar nominations, I didn't think any of them were jaw-on-the-floor, must-see kind of films... as I think a 'Best Animated Feature of the Year' should be... but I would rather have seen the Oscar go to either Corpse Bride or Wallace & Gromit before it went to Howl.


blargh, blind adoration... whoppity-doo...

[GrafSpee]

Considering Aardman are married to Dreamworks now, and their next two films are both CGI, it looks like this was the last hoorah for Aardman claymation, rather than the start of a new age.


One of the features on the Wallace & Gromit DVD said that we would probably see another Wallace & Gromit film in about 6 or 7 years. Given that Tim Burton seems to do stop-motion film every 12 years or so, I suppose that we could consider ourselves lucky to get another Wallace & Gromit film in 7 years.

[lupercal]

One of the features on the Wallace & Gromit DVD said that we would probably see another Wallace & Gromit film in about 6 or 7 years.

That doesn't make any sense to me. If Wallace and Gromit have just won an Academy Award, why wouldn't they be lining up another one ASAP? Plus, I suspect that after 6 or 7 years of doing CGI with Dreamworks, Aardman's people are never going to go back to claymation. Hell they've already made a
CG film designed to look like claymation. (Why don't thery make a claymation film designed to look like CG? That would be be bizarre)

Loop

[MonkeyFunk]

in 6 or 7 years Peter Sallis will be in his 90s :(

[Fuzzy Cat]

I'm not that happy that WALLACE & GROMIT won the Oscar (but ... c'mon, do you really believe the Oscars MEAN anything?) for Best Animated Feature. In enjoyed both CORPSE BRIDE and HOWL'S MOVING CASTLE more. But oh well, this academy gave the Oscar to SHREK when they could have gave it to MONSTERS INC. ...

But it suprised me that CRASH won the Best Movie Oscar. It was such a terrific movie but I thought I would be overlooked.

[lupercal]

Perhaps the bare fact is that this year, there weren't any major animated films that were that all that great. I just watched the winner, and I thought it was pretty good. That's about the best I could say of it. All reports of 'Howl's Moving Castle' is that it's below Ghibli's standard. 'Corpse Bride', I haven't seen, but I wasn't a huge fan of 'Nightmare Before Xmas', so I suspect it might fall into the same sort of category for me. Perhps there was just nothing great this year - or if it was, it is obscure enough that it didn't get noticed or nominated.

BTW Perhaps we should have the nominees for best short film up.

Loop

[P.C. Unfunny]

BTW Perhaps we should have the nominees for best short film up.

Loop

Sepaking about the short films winner,I liked the begining of John Canemaker's acceptance speech which was basically "sticking it to the CGI man".

[starlac]

BTW Perhaps we should have the nominees for best short film up.

Okay...done.

The only one of these films I've seen is Corpse Bride, which to me, just wasn't as good as Nightmare.

[MonkeyFunk]

People at the IMDB boards are also objecting:

Has anyone else noticed... Wallace and Gromet is a stupid, foolish little cartoon thing involving clay people???

Times have moved on so much since the days of little clay cartoons, but one man hasn't moved on. This Nick Park guy. He's this one trick pony who started off making short cartoons about a poorly drawn man and a dog... And now years later, he's still doing it!

Can you imagine if Reese Witherspoon acted in nothing but Legally Blonde sequels? Bleugh! She got an oscar cause she does new things, moves on... This guy should do something different and fast cause damn, his little clay cartoons about that cheese guy are EXTREMELY old.

He should go back to his bedroom and play with his toys on his own.

I am very disapointed. How could anyone think Wallice and Gromit is overall a better animated film than Howl's Moving Castle? Well it's pretty obvious that the only reason it won is because its warehouse or whatever burned down and it took oh no 5 years to make ....

It will go down for me as the biggest travisty in Oscar history.

[P.C. Unfunny]

People at the IMDB boards are also objecting:

Those people are just plain stupid.They won because the academy felt sorry for Aradman because they lost there props in a fire ? How moronic can you get ?

[GrafSpee]

That doesn't make any sense to me. If Wallace and Gromit have just won an Academy Award, why wouldn't they be lining up another one ASAP?
Loop

I assume that the Aardman crew are already signed up for other projects. Given how long it takes them to do a claymation film, that is probably the earliest timeframe based on when they can get the people they need freed up from other projects.