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KloKei07
07-02-2007, 09:24 AM
Probably you haven't heard of this, but from quite some years there's have been a serious conflict involving this series here in Latin American with one of his most important elements: the Spanish dub. You see The Simpson was originally broadcasted as a pilot show here in Mexico and some parts of the South America, mostly because the networks believed that the public wouldn't get the “American humor”. Instead they decided to "localize" the dub, making it this way more accessible to the public: the result was immediate success and contrary to what you think the essence of the show to this day has been kept.

The problem here was mainly the salary and contract of this voice actors, something managed completely different here than in the US. For example, if in the US they pay something like 30,000 (just a number don't mind me..) here the higher payment "per-show" can be up to 200 dollars (that if your counting that the actor is dubbing a stellar character like Bart or Homer), the result was obviously expected: the actors demanded a higher salary and better conditions in their contract just to be fired a the next season by Fox.

About the boycott, this is something much more complicated: after Fox ignored the critics of enraged fans after they changed the voice actors for "similar voices" the leading actors of the movement Humberto Velez (voice of Homer) and Gabriel Chavez (voice of Mr. Burns) initiated a campaign that started in South America and would end in Mexico (I think) the object is to gather the larger number of fans or at least convince them of not seeing the movie making it "the biggest flop in the Hollywood industry".

As you can see this is not a simple problem, and probably you wouldn't understand it being an outsider, but mostly I wanted to let you know this, since it any case it's really interesting and exciting. On the other hand, although I myself I'm not a huge fan of the show (and I will see the movie :P) I always have appreciate the work of this actors which for almost 15 years have been icons for the entire dubbing industry (I think something like this would happen in the US if all of a sudden the original actor were changed, right?). As a side note, I would point out that this is the general attitude going through the entire industry of voice acting (at least here in Mexico and Latin America): since we aren't dealing with "famous actors and actresses" the studios don't see a point in making fair contracts and the problem is this have affected the dubbing of movies, animes and even television series.

Pat2
07-04-2007, 07:00 AM
I know what you mean. From season 16 onwards all of the voices changed (except Bart's who got his original voice from earlier seasons). The guy who does Homer's voice is obviously trying to copy Humberto Velez's style, but in my opinion it is just not the same. Marge and Lisa's voices are HORRIBLE, and the rest (like Mr. Burns) are also of inferior quality. It's been a while since I don't watch any of the new episodes on FOX here in Argentina. I prefer watching them from the Internet in English instead. If the movie comes to South America in both English and Spanish there is no question I'd see it in English, but if it only comes in the new Spanish dub I'm just not going to bother to go to the cinema. A boycott would be nice, if improbable.
By the way, American voice actors like Dan Castellaneta (voice of Homer), Nancy Cartright (Bart), Hank Hazaria (other voices), etc, earn a lot more than 30000$ a week. I am not sure, but I believe that their salary was in the (more than one) hundred thousand dollars per week or something like that.

lupercal
07-05-2007, 06:39 AM
The irony of this - if irony is the right word - is that the American voice cast is absurdly, ridiculously overpaid. In 2004 the major actors refused to record unless their salary was increased to $360,000 US per episode (at the time that was about half a million dollars $au. I don't remember what the outcome was, but I do remember they got a big pay hike.

By comparison, when I was doing voiceovers in the mid to late 90's, the industry standard rate was $230 au, regardless of whether you recorded one word or half an hour (about $160 US at the time). It was a per-session fee. Even if you turned for a session and didn't end up working that day.

It's just a typical example of the rich getting richer. How much is someone's voice worth? If Maurice LaMarche was a nobody you would probably get him in to do a passable imitation for breadcrumbs.

The true figure should somewhere between the appalingly low Mexican salary, and absurdly bloated American one. And there's an awful lot of room between the two.

As a matter of interest, I wonder how much the writers are paid.

Loop

KloKei07
07-05-2007, 12:05 PM
The guy who does Homer's voice is obviously trying to copy Humberto Velez's style, but in my opinion it is just not the same. Marge and Lisa's voices are HORRIBLE, and the rest (like Mr. Burns) are also of inferior quality

That's completely true, the feeling of "it's note the same thing” although it tries to be... and the reason why the older seasons are probably running with more success in the public channels than in FOX.

As a matter of interest, I wonder how much the writers are paid.

That's a really interesting point. :D